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Wednesday, September 9, 2020

JESUS IN HELL - He Descended into Hell? - Following his death for sin, Jesus journeys to Hades, to the City of Death, and rips its gates off the hinges - He liberates Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, John the Baptist, and the rest of the Old Testament faithful, ransoming them from the power of Sheol. After his resurrection, Jesus ascends to heaven and brings the ransomed dead with him, so that now paradise is no longer down near the place of torment, but is up in heaven where God dwells - “You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.” Joseph bought a linen shroud, and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen shroud and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. We all know that Jesus died. “‘Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!’ And having said this he breathed his last.” But what happened after he died? His body was laid in Joseph’s tomb, but what about his human soul? Reflecting on this question not only sheds light on the Bible’s teaching about death and the afterlife, but it also is a great encouragement to us, who must face death and seek to do so without fear. Death is separation, a dividing of things that ought to be united. Death marks the separation of the soul from the body. God made human beings to be embodied souls and ensouled bodies, and death rips this union asunder.

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Jesus in Hell

He Descended into Hell?
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Following his death for sin, Jesus journeys to Hades, to the City of Death, and rips its gates off the hinges - He liberates Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, John the Baptist, and the rest of the Old Testament faithful, ransoming them from the power of Sheol. After his resurrection, Jesus ascends to heaven and brings the ransomed dead with him, so that now paradise is no longer down near the place of torment, but is up in heaven where God dwells
Article by Joe Rigney
Professor, Bethlehem College & Seminary


 “You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.” - Psalm 16:10

Joseph bought a linen shroud, and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen shroud and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. (Mark 15:46)
We all know that Jesus died. “‘Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!’ And having said this he breathed his last” (Luke 23:46).
But what happened after he died? We know that his body was laid in Joseph’s tomb, but what about his human soul?
Reflecting on this question not only sheds light on the Bible’s teaching about death and the afterlife, but it also is a great encouragement to us, who must face death and seek to do so without fear.
What Is Death?
First of all, what exactly is death?
Death is separation, a dividing of things that ought to be united.
Fundamentally, it is separation from God.
Paul suggests as much in Ephesians 2:1–2, “You were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked.”
To walk in sin is to be dead, to be enslaved to dark powers, to be separated from God, to be children of his wrath.
This type of separation is an estrangement, a hostility, an alienation from the life and hope of the living God.
In this sense, all of us, by nature, are born dead, and it is this death that Jesus endured in his suffering on the cross.
But of course, death is more than just separation from God. Death also marks the separation of the soul from the body.
God made human beings to be embodied souls and ensouled bodies, and death rips this union asunder.
But what happens to these two parts after they’re separated?
Psalm 16:10 gives us a window into the biblical teaching.
“You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.”
This passage directs us to the normal account of what happened when a human being died prior to the death and resurrection of Jesus.
The soul was abandoned “to Sheol,” and the body saw corruption or decayed.
In Acts 2:29–31, Peter tells us that David, in writing this psalm, foresaw the resurrection of Christ, “that he was not abandoned to Hades [that is, his soul wasn’t], nor did his flesh see corruption” (notice that Peter reads the second line as a reference to Jesus’s body or flesh).
Thus, prior to Jesus, at death, souls normally went to Sheol (or Hades), and bodies (flesh) decayed.
We’re all familiar with the latter, but the former is more opaque.
A quick Bible study will show us why Peter thinks that David’s prophecy in Psalm 16 is such good news.
What Is Sheol?
In the Old Testament, Sheol is the place of the souls of the dead, both the righteous (like Jacob, Genesis 37:35, and Samuel, 1 Samuel 28:13–14) and the wicked (Psalm 31:17).
In the New Testament, the Hebrew word Sheol is translated as Hades, and the description of Sheol in the Old and New Testaments bears some resemblance to the Hades of Greek mythology.
It is under the earth (Numbers 16:30–33), and it is like a city with gates (Isaiah 38:10) and bars (Job 17:16).
It is a land of darkness — a place where shades, the shadowy souls of men, dwell (Isaiah 14:9; 26:14).
It is the land of forgetfulness (Psalm 88:12), where no work is done and no wisdom exists (Ecclesiastes 9:10).
Most significantly, Sheol is a place where no one praises God (Psalm 6:5; 88:10–11; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18).
In the New Testament, the most extended depiction of the afterlife is found in Luke 16:19–31.
There we learn that, like the Hades of Greek mythology, the biblical Sheol has two compartments: Hades proper (where the rich man is sent, Luke 16:23) and “Abraham’s bosom” (where the angels carry Lazarus, Luke 16:22).
Hades proper is a place of torment, where fire causes anguish to the souls imprisoned there.
Abraham’s bosom, on the other hand, while within shouting distance of Hades, is separated from it by “a great chasm” (Luke 16:26) and is, like the Greek Elysium, a place of comfort and rest.
While much mystery remains, the picture begins to take shape.
All dead souls go down to Sheol/Hades, but Sheol is divided into two distinct sides, one for the righteous and one for the wicked.
The righteous who died prior to Christ dwelt in Sheol with Abraham, and though they were cut off from the land of the living (and therefore from the worship of Yahweh on earth), they were not tormented as the wicked were.
Where Did Jesus Go When He Died?
What, then, does this tell us about where Jesus was on Holy Saturday?
Based on Jesus’s words to the thief on the cross in Luke 23:43, some Christians believe, that after his death, Jesus’s soul went to heaven to be in the presence of the Father.
But Luke 23:43 doesn’t say that Jesus would be in the presence of God; it says he would be in the presence of the thief (“Today you will be with me in paradise”)
And based on the Old Testament and Luke 16, it seems likely that the now-repentant thief would be at Abraham’s side, a place of comfort and rest for the righteous dead, which Jesus here calls “paradise.”
Following his death for sin, then, Jesus journeys to Hades, to the City of Death, and rips its gates off the hinges.
He liberates Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, John the Baptist, and the rest of the Old Testament faithful, ransoming them from the power of Sheol (Psalm 49:15; 86:13; 89:48).
They had waited there for so long, not having received what was promised, so that their spirits would be made perfect along with the saints of the new covenant (Hebrews 11:39–40; 12:23).
After his resurrection, Jesus ascends to heaven and brings the ransomed dead with him, so that now paradise is no longer down near the place of torment, but is up in the third heaven, the highest heaven, where God dwells (2 Corinthians 12:2–4).
Now, in the church age, when the righteous die, they aren’t merely carried by angels to Abraham’s bosom; they depart to be with Christ, which is far better (Philippians 1:23).
The wicked, however, remain in Hades in torment, until the final judgment, when Hades gives up the dead who dwell there, and they are judged according to their deeds, and then Death and Hades are thrown into hell, into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:13–15).
Good News for Us
What implications does this have for Holy Week? Christ’s journey to Hades demonstrates that he was indeed made like us in every way.
Not only did he bear the wrath of God on our behalf; he endured death, the separation of his soul from his body.
His body was in Joseph’s tomb (Luke 23:50–53), and his soul was three days in Sheol, “in the heart of the earth” (Matthew 12:40).
But as Psalm 16 makes clear, Jesus is not only like us, but different. Jesus’ body was buried, like ours, but it did not decay.
Jesus’s soul went to Hades, like the Old Testament saints’, but wasn’t abandoned there.
God raised him from the dead, reunited his soul with a now-glorified body, so that he is the firstfruits of the resurrection harvest.
And this is good news for us, because those in Christ now bypass the land of forgetfulness, where no one praises God.
Instead, when we die, we join with the angelic choir and the saints of old to sing praises to the Lamb who was slain for us and our salvation.
The Lord is risen. The Lord is risen indeed.
Your Sorrow Will Turn to Joy

Joe Rigney (@joe_rigney) is assistant professor of theology and literature at Bethlehem College & Seminary and author of The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts. He is a pastor at Cities Church.


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Tuesday, December 31, 2019

THE THIRD HEAVEN - Paradise, or the third heaven, is the place where God is. ‘Third heaven’ (which only appears once in the Bible) has the same meaning as how we normally use the word ‘heaven’. ‘Heaven’ or ‘heavens’ is used in various ways in the Bible. The first meaning of ‘heavens’ is the atmosphere of the earth. The second meaning of ‘heavens’ is the stars beyond the earth’s atmosphere. The third meaning of heavens is the dwelling place of God. So, when Paul was writing about ‘third heaven’, he meant to say: ‘I was not in the clouds, I was not among the stars – I was in the presence of God!’ That is a deep and overwhelming joy that each of us will experience if we have trusted in the Lord Jesus as our Saviour. ‘you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven’. ‘There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness’.

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The Third Heaven
What is the third heaven?
Marten Visser


Your question: What is the third heaven?


Paul wrote that he was “caught up to the third heaven” (2 Corinthians 12:2).
In the next verse he calls the same place “paradise”.
Paradise, or the third heaven, is the place where God is.
Jesus promised to the criminal on the cross: “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43).
They will be in the presence of God together.
So ‘third heaven’ (which only appears once in the Bible) has the same meaning as how we normally use the word ‘heaven’.
Various ways of heaven
Why then is Paul talking about ‘third heaven’ and not just ‘heaven’?
That is to make sure his readers do not misunderstand him.
‘Heaven’ or ‘heavens’ is used in various ways in the Bible.
The first meaning of ‘heavens’ is the atmosphere of the earth. Examples of this are:
•   ‘the birds of the heavens’ (Genesis 1:26)
•   ‘the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained’ (Genesis 8:2).
•   ‘he will shut up the heavens, so that there will be no rain’ (Deuteronomy 11:17).
•   ‘you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven’ (Matthew 26:64).
The second meaning of ‘heavens’ is the stars beyond the earth’s atmosphere. Examples of this are:
•   ‘There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness’ (Exodus 24:10).
•   ‘I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven’, (Genesis 22:17).
•   ‘served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden’ (Deuteronomy 17:3)
•   ‘I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners’ (Acts 11:5).
The third meaning of heavens is the dwelling place of God. Examples of this use of the word are:
•   ‘And listen in heaven your dwelling place, and when you hear, forgive’ (1 Kings 8:30).
•   ‘then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land’ (2 Chronicles 7:14).
•   ‘The LORD has established his throne in the heavens’ (Psalms 103:19).
•   ‘give glory to your Father who is in heaven’ (Matthew 5:16).
Mixed use of heaven
Often ‘heaven’ is used in a way that these three meanings are more or less mixed. For example:
•   When Jacob flees Esau, we read ‘And he dreamed, and behold, there was a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven. And behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it!’ (Genesis 28:12).
•   “Jesus then said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven’” (John 6:32).
In the presence of the Lord
So, when Paul was writing about ‘third heaven’, he meant to say: ‘I was not in the clouds, I was not among the stars – I was in the presence of God!’
That is a deep and overwhelming joy that each of us will experience if we have trusted in the Lord Jesus as our Saviour.

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Marten Visser (1971), experienced a call from the Lord to be a missionary while in Kindergarten. He received M.Div., Th.M. in Missiology, M.A. in cultural anthropology degrees and a Ph.D. degree in Theology. In 2000 he became a church planting missionary in Thailand with OMF, together with his wife Esther. In 2015 he returned to the Netherlands where he founded GlobalRize. He continues to serve as GlobalRize’s director of evangelism.
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Sunday, May 6, 2018

AFTER DEATH WHAT - Are The Spirits Of The Dead Still In The Grave? - Before Jesus died on the cross, no one could enter Heaven because Jesus, the perfect sacrifice, had not yet been made. Both believers and unbelievers who died went to a place called “Sheol” in Hebrew and “Hades” in Greek.


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Are The Spirits Of The Dead Still In The Grave?
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Q. Thank you for taking time to answer my question. I am gentile searching my Jewish roots. Recently I have attended a Messianic congregation with mainly gentiles.
    At one of the Shabbats the subject of life after death came up. I was shocked to find that the majority believed the spirit stays in the grave. Any scripture I quoted they had an answer for it. The answer that shocked me most was that of Yeshua’s reply to the thief on the cross. Here are some of their replies as follows:” 1. There is no punctuation in Greek of the NT. The comma was placed by translators according to a source book and changed the meaning of “today you will be with me in paradise”. 2. Yeshua went to the grave and stayed three days and nights and that paradise didn’t mean heaven, but garden.3. The word for paradise was in the future.
   Needless to say I was left reeling for it seems there was a response for all of the theology I was taught about life after death as related to the spirit. I honestly don’t know if this is a Messianic belief. I still believe the spirit goes somewhere to heaven or hell. Please help me get some understanding. I will greatly appreciate your response.

Answer: Having led a Messianic congregation for a time, I have come to the sad realization that there’s a fair amount of error being taught in the movement. Most of it involves some form of legalism.
But this one is fairly common throughout the Church.
The Greek word for paradise does mean garden and was meant to recall the Garden of Eden to mind.
Before the cross, no one could enter Heaven because the perfect sacrifice had not yet been made. 
Both believers and unbelievers who died went to a place called “Sheol” in Hebrew and “Hades” in Greek.
Both words mean “abode of the dead.”
Sometimes these words are translated “grave” but that’s only accurate as far as the body is concerned. 
For the spirit, Sheol was a place of waiting divided into two sections with a wide gulf between them.
One section was for the faithful and was called Paradise, or Abraham’s Bosom.
It was a place of rest and comfort. It is where both Jesus and one of the thieves went upon dying.
But after Jesus came out of the tomb, He brought the spirits in Paradise with Him
52 The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, 53 and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many.” (Matthew 27:52-53) English Standard Version (ESV)
Since that time the spirits of believers who die go straight to be with the Lord.
Paradise has been empty since the Resurrection.
Some teach that the word "body" in 2 Corinthians 5 means the Church.
But it cannot be so because the passage says that when we leave the body we will be judged for the things we did while in the body.
It is a reference to the Bema Seat judgment of 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 that takes place in Heaven.

 6 So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight. 

8 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. 

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.” (2 Corinthians 5:6-10 ESV)

10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 

11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 

12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.

14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward

15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” (1 Corinthians 3:10-15 ESV)


If in fact the word for paradise in Luke 23:43 is future it is because when Jesus spoke their arrival in Paradise had not happened yet.

43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” (Luke 23:43 ESV)


The other section of the Abode of the Dead was a place of torment.
Unbelievers who die have always gone there to await judgment and still do. It is where the spirit of the other thief went.
They will be brought to life at the end of the Millennium for their final judgment. (Judgment Before the Great White Throne)

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 

12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life.

“And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.

14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 

15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:11-15 ESV) 

You can get an understanding of Sheol straight from the Lord by reading Luke 16:19-31, the story (not a parable) of the rich man and Lazarus.
19 There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table.
“Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 
24 And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 
25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 
26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 
27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house— 28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 
29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 
31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” (Luke 16:19-31 ESV) 
 Are you struggling with a big decision or wondering how your eternal future will play out?
Why not talk to the God of the universe and let Him work in your behalf?
He says, “I will instruct you and teach you the way you should go; I will counsel you with my eye upon you" (Psalm 32:8).
Ask God to show you what to do. Pray the following prayer:
“Heavenly Father,
I admit that I am a sinner and my sins have separated me from You. I now want to turn away from my past sinful life and begin a new life with You. I receive Your free gift of salvation.
Please forgive me. I now receive your Son, Jesus Christ as my Savior, my Master and my Lord. I believe and confess that Jesus Christ died for my sins, was buried, and rose from the dead.
I want to receive all that Jesus Christ has provided for me as my Savior. Your Word says, ‘Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved’ (Romans 10:13).
I believe and confess that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man comes unto the Father, but by Him.
Lord Jesus, I pray and ask You, to come into my heart and be Lord of my life. I thank You that you have given me eternal life, and according to Your Word, I am born again and I am now a child of God.
Heavenly Father, thank You for the gift of the Holy Spirit Who is in me now to help me do Your will for the rest of my life. I surrender my life to You. I promise to study Your Word – the Bible.
Use me for Your glory.
In Jesus’ Name. Amen.”
If you have just put your trust in Jesus Christ, you have been born into God’s family.
As a spiritual baby, you need to grow by feeding on God’s Word – the Bible (1 Peter 2:2).
You must have a good modern translation Bible and begin prayerfully reading it. Start in the New Testament, such as the Gospel of John or Paul’s letters to the Ephesians.
As you read, ask two questions: “What are You, Lord?” “What do You want me to do?”
Also, you need to join a Christian fellowship where the Bible is taught and where God is truly worshiped.
God bless you as you begin your new life with Him!
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